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Amon Warrior · Oct 31, 2007, 02:36 PM // 14:36

The aforementioned "epic" weapons are an exaggeration that wouldn't fit Guild Wars' emphasis on skill over to who has the biggest weapon available.

Weapons have proper scale, landscapes are awesome.

If Guild Wars has problems, graphics is not one of them.

Mineria · Oct 31, 2007, 02:49 PM // 14:49

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Offtopic - I'm disappointed that GW has no multicore support already. I have to reset the affinity in the task manager if I want to guarantee I don't crash while playing, every time I fire it up. Annoying really, I buy a bunch of components that make the game look beautiful and it crashes because of it.

Which multi core CPU do you got and which OS?
I played GW on AMD 64X2 on Windows XP and Vista both 32/64bit versions, and never had your problem.
Might be you miss an update either from Intel/AMD or a MS hotfix.

Only problem I ran into with Vista32 so far is some sort of memory leak.
Even if I got 3 gigs of ram, the game crashes after loads of hours online and Windows prompts me with an OUT OF MEMORY error.
No fix for that yet though.

Saraphim · Oct 31, 2007, 03:10 PM // 15:10

Intel Core 2 Quad Pro Q6600 (2.4) on WinXP. I didn't know what the problem was until I saw it on here, apparently NCSoft support have recommended that multicore users should open up the taskmanager and turn off the affinity on CPUs 1 and upwards as GW is only designed to run off a single processor.

All a bit beyond me really, and unless I know someone else is relying on me not to crash I don't bother doing it every single time.

Got 2 gig of RAM and an Nvidia 8800 card, the game just looks incredible to me. Everything looks so much more 3 dimensional on a decent card.

Mineria · Oct 31, 2007, 05:02 PM // 17:02

I found one hotfix for Core 2 CPU's
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=936357

As well check for bios update and that you are using the latest Intel chipset driver http://downloadcenter.intel.com/defa..._nav2_download

The taskmanager solution seems is a poor solution.
And it is not related with GW, then all those I know using AMD X2's should have the same problem.
But we don't, so its something MS/Intel needs to fix.
I think the hotfix plus the most up to date Intel chipset driver should fix your issue.

You got Service Pack 2 running on that XP?
And are you using Windows Update as well?

Saraphim · Oct 31, 2007, 05:09 PM // 17:09

Thanks Mineria, I'll look into it.
I have SP2 yes, updates I have set to nag me when they release them. I hate letting updates reboot my machine when I'm not there.

Sir Green Aluminum · Oct 31, 2007, 05:11 PM // 17:11

Oh noy, Lineage 2 was the legend of grind. It's an old days game, but still at lv 40 you get 10% exp per hour, lv 70 which used to be max it's 1%. Then they want you to rebirth again to lv 40 to do it again to get another class. Not much content, but the pvp and PK system is revolutionary!!! Pk anywhere except town, I won't go much into detail but it was good enough to stop players from pk crazy except a few griefers. It helped solve social problems and add drama. But there be no fmv scenes, those were just for advertising.

The graphics in the game are the best especially those night elves. If you had a good card the night elf's breast jiggle beats the Ele breast jiggle. L2 does'nt have jumping but it has falling lol which is like half way. The zones were "seamless" unless you had a bad computer in which you could actually see the seams, which would send you into a stuck state which was pretty much like a loading screen, except you could get Pk'ed and do noth about it.

I think GWs graphics makes you feel less in touch with your char because you're zoomed all the way back and you pretty much focus on your enemy's skills they are using and hardly movement unless you get the wall obstruction warning (if you use line of sight attacks). Because you auto target your target and can attack him without your screen facing him. Movement isn't much either unless you're hiding because it's auto attack and you automatically follow. Idk what people say about jumping in Gw2, we live in the future now, in which our servers can handle jumping and it adds tactical moving instead just standing still and brings character control to the player.

Mineria · Oct 31, 2007, 05:15 PM // 17:15

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Thanks Mineria, I'll look into it.
I have SP2 yes, updates I have set to nag me when they release them. I hate letting updates reboot my machine when I'm not there.

Hope this solves it for you.

I don't even get it to nag me, I prefer to use complete manual functions.

If this didn't solve your problem, let me know with a pm, and I will dive into some more geeky places.

Phoenix Tears · Oct 31, 2007, 06:15 PM // 18:15

so, hmm quite a sum of replies, while I was away ^^

I want repeat it once. I want not search for the "most best looking MMO out there", nor haven't I ever said, that L2 (god, sry for my wrong spelling of LA2, god forgive me XD) is in all kinds better than GW.
I said, both games have their pro's and con's and one pro of L2 versus GW is simple, that the Design of Characters, Weapons and Armors looks in general more interesting, more cooler, the stuff in L2 lets your characters really look powerful and mighty ...
That has in the end absolutely nothng to do with "Skill > Time" and that I want that such awesome looking weapons should be much strogner, then common looking weapons for GW2.
I want only for GW2, that the players should be able to create also such mighty looking characters (heroes/villains).

When i compare such design of L2 with the Design of GW, , then i must really ask me :

"Do our characters look in Elite-Armors and with Green Weapons equipped really mighty and powerful, compared to a 1 day old Noob in Starter Armor?"

Hmm, I say not really, especially when you think of the part, that the beginner don't needs much time and his noobish looking armor and stuff is at the same power, and that decreases somehow the appearance of Elite-Stuff to let your characters look mighty...
That changed only with EotN now a bit cause to the implementation of the special Gloves, which let your characters look mightier, when you equip for example the Destroyer/Chaos Gloves.

Sure, with up to date Graphic Cards ect. you can push up GW's graphics to its limits, but that changes not the fact, that stuff in l2, like Shields look alot more detailed, than common shields in GW (sure there are exceptions, thats normal, every game has certain exceptions, exceptions confirm the rules ^^)

@Mineria: is it forbidden to make compares with graphics of diffrent games ?
i think not ands sure not rude to make this discussion here.
this is a forum about GW, i compare with GW, so why should i not post this discussion here oO? Should I have posted it into a l2 forum maybe ?
there I would get flamed and whined by L2 fans, which would tell me the same stuff like you did, only from the other sight of view.
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Umm, people mentioned here now the kind of "style" both games have.
That L2 should be an Anime Game ... hmm, sry, but imo I don't think that ..
Anime styled RPG's are for example Ragnarok Online 1&2 or ROSE Online, but for sure not L2.

L2 is more like a, what I personally would call an "Gothic Medievil Fantasy"-Style. A Game, that is from its gamedesign compareable with for example the Free-MMORPG "RAPPELZ" in kind of Character Design, Weapon Design and Graphic Design.

Thats a Style, thats very near to realism, but it has certain points that are Main Points which you can observe on all characters in such games with this kind of Design.

Characters have to look:

-Sexy (especially females) > this is a Main Point
-should look more and more mighty so farer you get in the game
-Armors and Clothes are inpired by the 17th Century with a tough of Gothic, what you really see strongly at characters(classes) that have like a dark side or should look evil
-the character modesl are scaled on a normal realistic ration, there look Warriors like normal Men and not like Arnold Schwarzenegger-Clones like this is the fact in GW

The graphic designers of GW imo have a false view of realism, when it comes to my opinion.
The character model of the Warrior is somewhat of unrealistic, that i don't know,m if i should laugh or whine about it. look at the Wolf Picture-Compare I posted ..

L2's Wolfs are correct scaled and look like real realistic wolfs, when you look then at the Wolf of GW2, you get SCARED XD uhm, by its unrealistic uglyness.

Realism is nice and fine, but I think, GW could need at least for GW2 more "fantasy" and the fight system needs also an improvement imo (but thats an other thread i will post soon

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GW is in the end still an "Fantasy game" and not a "Realism Simulation" and I think, the game should show with GW2 more its nature as Fantasy Game.
When i would want GW to be a realism simulation, i could start playing better direct "the Sims" (what I won't do XD...crap game)

What do you think, will happen in GW2, when you as Human try to fight with a Norn Weapon ? Theoretically, if the game would be realistic, each 1H-Weapon from the Norn would be for every other race automatically a 2H Weapon and there would not exist such dumb things, like in GW1, like automatic size scaling (ever seen, what happens to the weapons, when a norn transforms into bearform ? weapon suddenly raises in size and is in bearform like 1,5 times bigger, then before o...hmm David Copperfield ingame ? XD)
and Dwarfs/Asura would be unable to weild anything of THAT size, because it would be normally simple too heavy for those races. *wants see, how an Asura weilds a 2H Sword, that is like 2,5 times bigger, than the Asura itself LOL*

However, in Kinds of Graphic improvements for GW2, I really hope, that also the Character and Weapon Design will get improved, that it becomes at least such high grade in details, like L2.

And let us all be truthfully ^^ ..who of us wants not to create in GW2 a character, that looks so awesome and mighty, like one of my example pictures there of L2 ?

I personally would die for it, when I could create in GW2 finally an awesome looking Characters, which fights with 2 1H Swords and which swords would look like those white/red ones on those several L2 examples.

Where I as player can then say only, when I look at my character

"OMG, I look so mighty, fear me ^^, who want's to duel me XD? *slaughter *gg*"

I say only ..looking mighty and powerful has not to mean, that your character must be really in the end powerful. The end of the story is ever the player itself and if you can play good your character with its Skills, there you can have thousands of godly looking weapons ect.
but such awesome looking stuff is it, for what very much players will "ever" strive for in in Games like L2,GW ect.

look at the armors in GW..nothing is good enough for the players, players scream in forums and ingame ever for more and better looking armors, that let their characters really look awesome... and then we players in GW get even more disappointed, because the "dumb" heroes receive much better looking elite armors, than we players, which are REALLY new and not only dumb reskins !!! Let this words melt on your tongues ... i don't think that somethign like that would ever happen in Games like WoW, or L2 ect., where dumb NPC's get better threatened, as the community... but that is now a bit too far OT XD

Back to the graphics. For GW2 I expect a game, that will offer us too some or at least ONE FMV Sequence. Cal that stuff "eye candies" but I think, such sequences are imo a MUST for every High End Game and GW2 will be one for sure, when I see than, that the older L2 even has them, than its kinda sad to see, that GW didn't had even at least 1...WoW versus that is like a whole cinema movie XD, imo thats too much, but it shows, when Anet really wants to stay in the rows of the High End games for future with GW2, then i think they have to make also some high end sequence(s) into their future game GW2 and when its only for the Opening and the Ending, imo the A and O of RPG's and in general for every "want to be succesful-Game"

hmm, so make some new thoughts and to read maybe next replies, I stop now first my novel XD

Bryant Again · Oct 31, 2007, 06:57 PM // 18:57

Alriiight! Class is over, it's post-cuttin' time.

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